I was going to live-blog tonight’s debate but traffic was pretty bad, so I got back fifteen minutes in. But here we go, anyways.
6:29 Obama and Clinton are debating healthcare. Dear Ms. Clinton, it’s a simple question: What. Is. The. Penalty. For. Not. Getting. Healthcare. Under. Your. System?
Goddammit, someone needs to push her for that answer. I really want to hear her say that, not just assume that everyone can afford to be forced to purchase healthcare.
6:31 Obama wants to put negotiations with pharmaceutical companies on C-SPAN. That is a great idea.
6:43 Ugh. In response to the immigration question, Clinton just pandered hard to the African American community, suggesting that it is Black people who are most hurt by illegal immigrants. That’s incredibly racist.
6:54 Well, it looks like Clinton finally has a clear stance on driver’s licenses for undocumented immigrants: she’s against it. How very poll-tested of her.
7:00 How is working for the Children’s Defense Fund as a recently graduated law student more experience than turning down corporate positions to work as a community organizer for working-class families most affected by unemployment?
7:01 It’s nice to cite one’s experience as a First Lady, being given “lots of responsibility”. Especially when no one can challenge you because you won’t release the records of the First Lady’s Office from that time.
7:05 Is anyone else a little put off by Clinton’s “I have Kennedys, too” argument? The two candidates are debating endorsements — generally, both candidates are right that the average American doesn’t give two whits about who endorsed whom.
7:11 Awesome question! How can Clinton be an agent of change when we’ve had the same two families in office for the last 30 years? Clinton sidesteps the question. Because, clearly, you can’t be an agent of change (like Obama is an agent of change) if most of your campaign relies on the experience you obtained as First Lady. As Edwards charged, Clinton is the textbook definition of status quo.
7:17 Back from commercial break, Clinton is challenged that she will not commit to removing all troops from Iraq by sixteen months following inauguration.
7:19 Is anyone else weirded out by the random celebrities-in-the-audience shots in this debate? Dude, are we here for Obama and Clinton, or to ogle Pierce Brosnan?
7:26 Politico.com question time, and Clinton is challenged on her pre-Iraq War votes. Clinton gives her usual answer: “If I knew then what I know now…” except that Clinton has been accused of not seeking out information — available to all senators — about the bad intelligence that led to the Iraq War quagmire. Instead, she judged a briefing to be good enough knowledge upon which to base her vote; now, that intelligence has been deemed poor and incorrect — can we still believe Clinton has the judgement to make the decisions for this country if she doesn’t judge it necessary to go find out more information?
7:29 Obama is questioned on the troop surge. He notes that Democrats want progress in Iraq — I love his quip “We have set the bar so low, it is buried in the sand.” That sums up the situation very nicely. Overall, a very good answer on foreign policy from Obama; hopefully it will assuage those who think Obama’s foreign policy is naive.
7:35 Wolf just got booed by California by trying to inflame Clinton, saying “So, are you saying you were naive” with the vote for the Iraq War? Clinton earns herself another five minutes of air-time. Are there two people in this debate? Obama has even put down his pen — Wolf, you are clearly biased. Cut Clinton off — she’s practically fillibustering.
7:38 “We need someone who’s going to be right on day one.” Yes we do, not someone who flip-flops based on polling data and the political winds.
7:43 Obama is asked about how to address concerns about sex and violence in Hollywood. He rejects censorship and embraces better parenting — which is spot-on to what I believe. Arm parents, but don’t censor art. He also thinks it’s appropriate to work with Hollywood to try and discourage inappropriate trailers and commercials from airing during family-friendly shows. I wish Clinton had been posed this question — she took a hard-line censorship stance as a NYC senator when it came to violent video games; would she take the same stance when faced with a sea full of Hollywood execs?
7:46 Clinton instead is asked about Bill — can she control him? Personally, I think Bill is uncontrollable — even on the campaign trail, he talks about himself more than his wife. And look how he went off on a 9/11 truther earlier today; sure, the truther had some ridiculous opinions, but there’s no need to be rude and dismissive of him, telling him to just “go away”.
7:48 Final question: oh God. Wolf’s gonna ask them if they would run together. No. Just, no. I actually don’t really want Obama on the same ticket with Clinton; Clinton is so divisive, I really don’t think he can come out of a Clinton presidency clean, especially if Obama has to be vice president to a political power couple that has been exceptionally racist against the African American community in recent weeks. Now, Obama/Edwards? That might be a very cool ticket.
As Clinton vocalizes a long-winded agreement to Obama’s speech about needing to change government (and plugs her website like a low-budget rap artist), I’m worried about Obama’s chances in California. The audience seemed generally less enthused about Obama than about Clinton, so I worry.
It’s gonna be a hard, final push. Let’s get everyone mobilized.