What I’m thinking… from ms. jared @ sinister girl 24 May 2007 3:47 pm
So much reading and so much to process but I wanted to share a few things that have come to me so far:
1) I am not Kos nor do I want to be anything like him.
That was a perfect "click" moment for me as I've been reading through all of the amazing writing this week. So much of it totally made sense and rang true to me, but when a few people threw down the "Where are all the women bloggers" and "You best be nice to the menz or the menz won't help you silly little women" bombs I was like, OMG, Becky! I think I get it now!
Coz ya know, just because I don't use "The N Word" or "ching-chong" jargon does not make me a "good" ally to WOC anymore than not raping women makes someone a "good" feminist. It's actually just the most basic level of common-deceny. Literally, the very least I can do. I should be doing more. Much more.
2) WOC issues are not "special interest" issues anymore than reproductive rights are a "special interest" issue. If it effects any woman, it effects all women.
3) WOC owe white feminists nothing. They do not have to reward us, acknowledge us, be nice to us, or even pay attention to us when we do anti-racist work. As I said before, it is just the most basic level of human decency and common courtesy and we don't deserve medals for not being selfish, self-centered, self-absorbed assholes (for once).
4a) It's not always about me. I don't have to take every comment or criticism about white feminists personally. If I feel hurt, threatened, or offended by something a WOC has said or written, I need to STFU, listen, and learn. I may not necessarily agree with what they're saying or feel that it doesn't apply to me, but I don't need to defend any white woman from a woman of color anymore than any woman needs to defend men in any feminist discussion. Like Magniloquence said:
4b) It's not always me. I've said it a million times myself, to other feminists who get all bent out of shape about shit: If the shoe doesn't fit, then don't wear it!
If a WOC says, "[White feminists] did/do such-and-such and it's some fucked up bullshit!" I don't need to run in and say, "Well, I'm a white feminist and I don't do that." or "Not all white feminists do that!" I might as well preface every conversation about rape with "Not all men rape!" and then shoot myself in the face for being such a fucking moron.
It's true, not all white feminists do such-and-such, but that's a given so instead of disrupting a fruitful conversation to state the obvious, it might serve me well to STFU and learn something new.
I'm sure I'll have items 5 through 29 billion at some point and I'll share them along the way but I just wanted to say one more thing before I go: Tuesday I was basically all, "Where are all the Feminist Women of Color Bloggers?!?!" and since being directed to a handful of them, I've found more and more and more. I've read zillions of brilliant thoughts, ideas, and words and haven't had time to read any of the blogs I usually read and you know what? (Yes, I know I've been a total jackass. What did I say about stating the obvious?!) I've actually learned a shitload more reading blogs in the past two days than I have in the past two months. Go figure.
Also: I was reading this and I thought to myself, Huh. So that's how intelligent, civilized human beings have a discussion and disagree with one another.
I hardly ever read or leave comments anywhere because whether the topic is soft, fluffy kittens or an illegal, deadly war, there's bound to be some fucked up, racist, sexist, bullshit flying and it stresses me out. Apparently though, that doesn't happen everywhere, mostly just in the White Progressive Blogosphere That I've Been Frequenting Too Much.
1) I am not Kos nor do I want to be anything like him.
That was a perfect "click" moment for me as I've been reading through all of the amazing writing this week. So much of it totally made sense and rang true to me, but when a few people threw down the "Where are all the women bloggers" and "You best be nice to the menz or the menz won't help you silly little women" bombs I was like, OMG, Becky! I think I get it now!
Coz ya know, just because I don't use "The N Word" or "ching-chong" jargon does not make me a "good" ally to WOC anymore than not raping women makes someone a "good" feminist. It's actually just the most basic level of common-deceny. Literally, the very least I can do. I should be doing more. Much more.
2) WOC issues are not "special interest" issues anymore than reproductive rights are a "special interest" issue. If it effects any woman, it effects all women.
3) WOC owe white feminists nothing. They do not have to reward us, acknowledge us, be nice to us, or even pay attention to us when we do anti-racist work. As I said before, it is just the most basic level of human decency and common courtesy and we don't deserve medals for not being selfish, self-centered, self-absorbed assholes (for once).
4a) It's not always about me. I don't have to take every comment or criticism about white feminists personally. If I feel hurt, threatened, or offended by something a WOC has said or written, I need to STFU, listen, and learn. I may not necessarily agree with what they're saying or feel that it doesn't apply to me, but I don't need to defend any white woman from a woman of color anymore than any woman needs to defend men in any feminist discussion. Like Magniloquence said:
You are not saying anything the people of color you’re talking to haven’t heard a thousand times before. You are not saying anything the people of color you’re talking to haven’t told themselves a thousand times before. If you would actually stop your reflexive know-it-all yammering and pay attention to what people of color actually SAY about the offenses they suffer on the prejudice - racism continuum, you will note that almost to a person they second-guess their own gut feelings about the putative offender far beyond the point where almost any white person would.
4b) It's not always me. I've said it a million times myself, to other feminists who get all bent out of shape about shit: If the shoe doesn't fit, then don't wear it!
If a WOC says, "[White feminists] did/do such-and-such and it's some fucked up bullshit!" I don't need to run in and say, "Well, I'm a white feminist and I don't do that." or "Not all white feminists do that!" I might as well preface every conversation about rape with "Not all men rape!" and then shoot myself in the face for being such a fucking moron.
It's true, not all white feminists do such-and-such, but that's a given so instead of disrupting a fruitful conversation to state the obvious, it might serve me well to STFU and learn something new.
I'm sure I'll have items 5 through 29 billion at some point and I'll share them along the way but I just wanted to say one more thing before I go: Tuesday I was basically all, "Where are all the Feminist Women of Color Bloggers?!?!" and since being directed to a handful of them, I've found more and more and more. I've read zillions of brilliant thoughts, ideas, and words and haven't had time to read any of the blogs I usually read and you know what? (Yes, I know I've been a total jackass. What did I say about stating the obvious?!) I've actually learned a shitload more reading blogs in the past two days than I have in the past two months. Go figure.
Also: I was reading this and I thought to myself, Huh. So that's how intelligent, civilized human beings have a discussion and disagree with one another.
I hardly ever read or leave comments anywhere because whether the topic is soft, fluffy kittens or an illegal, deadly war, there's bound to be some fucked up, racist, sexist, bullshit flying and it stresses me out. Apparently though, that doesn't happen everywhere, mostly just in the White Progressive Blogosphere That I've Been Frequenting Too Much.
